NZX vs Ralec   19 May 2016

Article - BusinessDesk

NZX vs Ralec: Weldon denies intimidating Clear Grain Exchange's former owners

By Sophie Boot

May 19 (BusinessDesk) - Former NZX chief Mark Weldon has denied intimidating the former owners of the Clear Grain Exchange and described them as being more focused on their earnouts than the success of the business.

In Weldon's third day of being cross-examined by Tim North QC, who is counsel for Clear's former owners, Grant Thomas and Dominic Pym, and their companies Ralec Commodities and Ralec Interactive, the focus was on Weldon's relationship with Thomas and Pym.

Late in the afternoon at the Wellington High Court, Weldon was presented with an email sent by Pym to Thomas which North said was an accurate transcript of a conversation Weldon and Pym had, but which Weldon described as "concocted."

North said the conversation was him intimidating his employee, and asked Weldon whether he had told Pym he would lose his job if Clear didn't succeed.

Weldon said he had an obligation to have a "firm conversation" with Pym, who he described as a "very highly paid employee who was consistently underperforming and undermining the business." He denied the email was a transcript of the conversation and said that while he didn't have notes about the conversation, he remembered it as he had been conscious of the conversation because Pym "needed to understand his behaviour was unacceptable."

Earlier, cross-examination was centred around what Thomas and Pym had disclosed about a dispute with two shareholders of another company, called Thundercats, who also claimed to be founding members of Clear. NZX had asked whether there were any disputes in due diligence, and Clear said there was a dispute with a disgruntled shareholder but it was not substantial, a point Weldon made in his brief on Monday.

Weldon said it didn't matter that the shareholders had not made a legal claim, but the issue was that the two shareholders were "very important people in the grain market" who had gone on to refuse to use Clear and badmouth the platform, and this had not been disclosed.

"They were a very large broker and wouldn't support Clear," Weldon said. "Had we been aware they [Thomas and Pym] had squeezed out the grain experts we may well have done things quite differently."

North said NZX had been copied in on correspondence between the parties before the transaction was completed in October 2009. He asked Weldon whether there had been anything preventing NZX's corporate counsel Rachael Newsome from talking to the shareholders or their lawyers, and Weldon said there wasn't, but NZX had trusted Pym and Thomas and took them at their word over the issue.

North also asked Weldon about the financial situation Thomas and Pym were in after NZX acquired Clear. Weldon said the business was "very adequately resourced," and the former owners were treated the same way as any other senior executive at NZX. He said Thomas had run into issues as he had not wanted to provide receipts for his expenses.

Throughout today's cross-examination, Weldon asked North how he was trying to "trap" him, what "wormhole" he was leading him down and at one stage exclaimed "for god's sake" in apparent frustration at being interrupted. He referred to some of North's questions as "completely nuts" and said on multiple occasions he had already answered the question on an earlier day or told North he had asked a confused question.

Justice Robert Dobson told North again that he was taking too long in his cross-examination of Weldon. North said he anticipates finishing cross-examination tomorrowmorning, having begun on Tuesday morning.

"[Weldon] has been in the witness box long enough," the judge said. "This has been going on an awfully long time. You're taking longer on the pre-document testing than is useful to us. I said that a couple of days ago - I don't want to sound like Mr Weldon."

In the afternoon, North asked Weldon about what he described as "machinations" when NZX became concerned with Thomas's performance before his resignation in April 2010.

Weldon said Thomas wasn't delivering and concern about his performance and "recalcitrant attitude" had been voiced by other executives in early 2010. He said Thomas and Pym "liked to act as a law unto themselves" and had to be repeatedly reminded of their obligations to NZX.

North, who put it to Weldon that he had decided to get rid of Thomas as early as late 2009, asked Weldon about the phrase "what we get him on" which Weldon used in reference to Thomas in an email which included his concerns about Thomas's performance.

"What we would get him on - that means what work we would get him to do, and that's normal sensible business practice," Weldon said. "There's nothing mysterious or bad about this. There's nothing in here that says we want to move Thomas out of the organisation, but it says we need to think through options."

Weldon was also asked about his concerns that Thomas might start legal proceedings against NZX if he was fired.

"This is a conjecture, I'm not saying we've got any obligations, I'm saying he might make an argument of such," Weldon said. "All I'm doing is identifying a risk we need to be cognisant of. We were, as it turns out rightly, concerned he would look to construct legal outcomes to get money, rather than business outcomes."

Weldon said Thomas was "someone we were coming to view as massively focused on themselves and their earnouts ahead of their general business obligations."

(BusinessDesk)

Add a comment

News

Hilary Timmins' Award-Winning UK Documentary Series To Inspire NZ Students

29 Jun 2020 Education
Dream Catchers, produced and directed by Hilary Timmins, celebrates the success stories of more than thirty inspirational New... more

New Zealand reaffirms support for Flight MH17 judicial process

7 Mar 2020 News By Rt HON WINSTON PETERS
Ahead of the start of the criminal trial in the Netherlands on 9 March, Foreign Minister Winston Peters has reaffirmed the need to... more

Business

NZ Government's Economic package to fight COVID-19

17 Mar 2020 Business News By RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
The Coalition Government has launched the most significant peace-time economic plan in modern New Zealand history to cushion the... more

NZ Government announces aviation relief package

19 Mar 2020 Business News By Hon Phil Twyford
Transport Minister Phil Twyford today outlined the first tranche of the $600 million aviation sector relief package announced earlier... more

Living

Diversity was Key at New Zealand Trade Tasting in London

6 Jun 2022 Food & Wine
New Zealand Winegrowers Annual Trade Tasting was recently held in London, on Wednesday 4 May, in Lindley Hall. It was the first... more

Kiwi author stuns Behind the Butterfly Gate

12 Jan 2022 Arts By Charlotte Everett
Hidden behind the Butterfly Gate is where the secret has been kept for 76 years...  New Zealand writer Merryn Corcoran’s... more

Property

Fairer rules for tenants and landlords

17 Nov 2019 Property By Minister Kris Faafoi
17 NOVEMBER 2019 The Government has delivered on its promise to the over one million New Zealanders who now rent to make it fairer... more

New Zealand Government will not implement a Capital Gains Tax

17 Apr 2019 Property By RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
The Coalition Government will not proceed with the Tax Working Group’s recommendation for a capital gains tax, Jacinda Ardern... more

Migration

Boosting border security with electronic travel authority – now over 500,000 issued

19 Nov 2019 Migration By Hon Iain Lees-Galloway
19 NOVEMBER 2019 We’ve improved border security with the NZeTA, New Zealand Electronic Travel Authority, which helps us to... more

Christchurch reinstated as refugee settlement location

18 Aug 2018 Migration
18 AUGUST 2018 HON IAIN LEES-GALLOWAY The announcement that Christchurch can once again be a settlement location for refugees... more

Travel

Gallipoli Anzac Day services cancelled

19 Mar 2020 Travel & Tourism By RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
The New Zealand and Australian Governments have announced this year’s joint Anzac Day services at Gallipoli will be cancelled... more

New Zealanders advised not to travel overseas

19 Mar 2020 Travel & Tourism
New Zealanders advised not to travel overseas more

Sport

The Skipper's Diary: Sir Richard Hadlee honouring his father and NZ's Forty-Niners

27 Oct 2019 Cricket By Charlotte Everett
NZNewsUK London Editor Charlotte Everett spoke to Sir Richard Hadlee about why he’s chosen to publish his father’s... more

PREVIEW: All Blacks v England semi-final

26 Oct 2019 Rugby
The two most convincing quarterfinals winners are set to square off in a semifinal showdown for the ages when the All Blacks meet old... more

Columns

Gordon Campbell on the Gareth Morgan crusade

11 Nov 2016 Opinion
Gordon Campbell on the Gareth Morgan crusade First published on Werewolf The ghastly likes of Marine Le Pen in France and Geert ... more

Gordon Campbell on the US election outcome

10 Nov 2016 Opinion
Column - Gordon Campbell   Gordon Campbell on the US election outcome Well um.. on the bright side, there (probably)... more

Kiwi Success

Congratulations to Loder Cup winner

26 Sep 2018 People By Hon Eugenie Sage
25 SEPTEMBER 2018 The Loder Cup, one of New Zealand’s oldest conservation awards, has been awarded to Robert McGowan for 2018... more

Appointments to New Zealand National Commission for UNESCO

16 Aug 2018 Appointments
16 AUGUST 2018Appointments to New Zealand National Commission for UNESCO HON JENNY SALESA Associate Education Minister Jenny Salesa is... more

Recruitment

Historic pay equity settlement for education support workers

14 Aug 2018 Recruitment By RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
14 AUGUST 2018Historic pay equity settlement for education support workers RT HON JACINDA ARDERN HON CHRIS HIPKINS Prime Minister The... more

Historic pay equity settlement for education support workers

22 Aug 2018 Recruitment By RT HON JACINDA ARDERN
14 AUGUST 2018Historic pay equity settlement for education support workers RT HON JACINDA ARDERN HON CHRIS HIPKINS Prime Minister The... more